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		<title>By: FoosMaster</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>FoosMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point 1) True. I am open for suggestions on how to fix that if possible.
Point 2) Also True. But I don’t think the specialists will have anywhere else to go if the last Insurance Conglomerate Economy in the world changes to government healthcare so they will continue to practice here but with a smaller salary. 
Point 3) Good Point and I agree. I think that single payer is the Best way to achieve this.
Point 4) I thought that was the point that I was trying to convey. Maybe I just worded it wrong.
Point 5) Let’s not get into that one right now.
Please go to my blog and suggest some updates and rewording.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point 1) True. I am open for suggestions on how to fix that if possible.<br />
Point 2) Also True. But I don’t think the specialists will have anywhere else to go if the last Insurance Conglomerate Economy in the world changes to government healthcare so they will continue to practice here but with a smaller salary.<br />
Point 3) Good Point and I agree. I think that single payer is the Best way to achieve this.<br />
Point 4) I thought that was the point that I was trying to convey. Maybe I just worded it wrong.<br />
Point 5) Let’s not get into that one right now.<br />
Please go to my blog and suggest some updates and rewording.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Brammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Foos, here we go:
1. Doctor Assignment - the problem here is that some doctors won&#039;t accept what the government (or an insurance company) is willing to pay.  So, in either case, you can only keep seeing your current doctor if you can and are willing to pay the difference.
2. Specialists - I thought the problem with specialist care in Canada was that there simply weren&#039;t enough of them.  I understood that was because they don&#039;t make the huge sums our specialists do.  That&#039;s why we have plenty of them.  What we have is a shortage of primary care doctors.  I read that primaries make around $100k and specialists $500k.
3. Cost to Companies - I&#039;ve never understood why companies were involved in the first place  Why not get them out of the loop?  Have them give the $$ they spend on health care to their employees or up the corporate tax rate.
4. Government waste and corruption - Gov employees are no more wasteful or corrupt than non-gov.  The corruption is actually from private enterprise.   It doesn&#039;t matter what program you have, people will be out there conning the system.  Fraud should be treated like tax evasion and enforced aggressively.
5.I don&#039;t agree on your position on abortion but that is another topic.

I generally agree with your other points.  The biggest problem is that I don&#039;t see in your or congress&#039; plans any meaningful way of curbing health care costs.  Without that we are on a course for a train wreck whether we have &quot;health care insurance reform&quot; or not.  There are a lot of people in the health care industry making a lot of money.  Yea, tort reform would help a little bit but not make a major impact.    So that is the nut that needs to be cracked and it won&#039;t be easy.....

One thing we could do is stop allowing drug companies to market prescription drugs directly to the public.  We take way too many drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Foos, here we go:<br />
1. Doctor Assignment &#8211; the problem here is that some doctors won&#8217;t accept what the government (or an insurance company) is willing to pay.  So, in either case, you can only keep seeing your current doctor if you can and are willing to pay the difference.<br />
2. Specialists &#8211; I thought the problem with specialist care in Canada was that there simply weren&#8217;t enough of them.  I understood that was because they don&#8217;t make the huge sums our specialists do.  That&#8217;s why we have plenty of them.  What we have is a shortage of primary care doctors.  I read that primaries make around $100k and specialists $500k.<br />
3. Cost to Companies &#8211; I&#8217;ve never understood why companies were involved in the first place  Why not get them out of the loop?  Have them give the $$ they spend on health care to their employees or up the corporate tax rate.<br />
4. Government waste and corruption &#8211; Gov employees are no more wasteful or corrupt than non-gov.  The corruption is actually from private enterprise.   It doesn&#8217;t matter what program you have, people will be out there conning the system.  Fraud should be treated like tax evasion and enforced aggressively.<br />
5.I don&#8217;t agree on your position on abortion but that is another topic.</p>
<p>I generally agree with your other points.  The biggest problem is that I don&#8217;t see in your or congress&#8217; plans any meaningful way of curbing health care costs.  Without that we are on a course for a train wreck whether we have &#8220;health care insurance reform&#8221; or not.  There are a lot of people in the health care industry making a lot of money.  Yea, tort reform would help a little bit but not make a major impact.    So that is the nut that needs to be cracked and it won&#8217;t be easy&#8230;..</p>
<p>One thing we could do is stop allowing drug companies to market prescription drugs directly to the public.  We take way too many drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: FoosMaster</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>FoosMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realy would like to know the opinions about MY healthcare proposal by those who opject to my opinions about healthcare. You can read it at http://foosmaster.wordpress.com/  This is MY proposal. I want to hear specific opinions about specific parts of my proposal. Any suggestions are Always welcome, even if they are in opposition to my views! I will consider anything that makes since. Really! Make me believe that what you have to offer is better. I really am open minded but I do have extensive personal experience with the current system so you will have to convince me. Please let me know your proposals and ANY specific objections to MY proposal. Yes I know that MY proposal is not being put forth, but if it was being proposed, what would be your suggestions to improve it. Warning, I truly believe that the current system is completely unacceptable but good logic is always acceptable.
Thank you Jerry, you have an eloquent view that I support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realy would like to know the opinions about MY healthcare proposal by those who opject to my opinions about healthcare. You can read it at <a href="http://foosmaster.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://foosmaster.wordpress.com/</a>  This is MY proposal. I want to hear specific opinions about specific parts of my proposal. Any suggestions are Always welcome, even if they are in opposition to my views! I will consider anything that makes since. Really! Make me believe that what you have to offer is better. I really am open minded but I do have extensive personal experience with the current system so you will have to convince me. Please let me know your proposals and ANY specific objections to MY proposal. Yes I know that MY proposal is not being put forth, but if it was being proposed, what would be your suggestions to improve it. Warning, I truly believe that the current system is completely unacceptable but good logic is always acceptable.<br />
Thank you Jerry, you have an eloquent view that I support.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Brammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly bizarre.  In your first paragraph, you actually agree with Foos.  But as he says, Social Security is another issue.

&quot;The system could be fixed easily with a couple minor adjustments&quot;.  It seems &quot;couple is now defined as &quot;10&quot;, give or take.

In looking at the 10, it&#039;s not clear to me how they slow down the skyrocketing costs of health care and in turn, health care insurance rates.

Once we have #1, a cost will be arrived at by the insurance companies.    If it exceeds some threshold, the government will some how subsidize the payment.  I&#039;m not clear how this process insures that people shop for lower rates unless the gov. forces people to the lowest cost provider.

Everyone has to purchase but I&#039;m not sure how we enforce but later I see that we will buy it for them and it&#039;s not clear how that is done or paid for.

Several of your proposals sound good to me including tort reform and nationwide purchasing of insurance.  What confuses me though is how they are a &quot;couple minor adjustments&quot;.  How are they any less simpler than just expanding Medicare for that paltry 10%?  How do your changes insure that taxpayers aren&#039;t paying for the continuation of multi-million dollar pay packages for insurance company execs or insurance company bureuacrats deciding what care an individual should receive?

All that said, I&#039;d take your changes over what we have currently.  That&#039;s because I can afford insurance, I just can&#039;t get it - pre-existing condition.  But I truly do not believe that they would magically be agreed to by the GOP.  This argument is like gun control, abortion, gay rights, etc. - don&#039;t give an inch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly bizarre.  In your first paragraph, you actually agree with Foos.  But as he says, Social Security is another issue.</p>
<p>&#8220;The system could be fixed easily with a couple minor adjustments&#8221;.  It seems &#8220;couple is now defined as &#8220;10&#8243;, give or take.</p>
<p>In looking at the 10, it&#8217;s not clear to me how they slow down the skyrocketing costs of health care and in turn, health care insurance rates.</p>
<p>Once we have #1, a cost will be arrived at by the insurance companies.    If it exceeds some threshold, the government will some how subsidize the payment.  I&#8217;m not clear how this process insures that people shop for lower rates unless the gov. forces people to the lowest cost provider.</p>
<p>Everyone has to purchase but I&#8217;m not sure how we enforce but later I see that we will buy it for them and it&#8217;s not clear how that is done or paid for.</p>
<p>Several of your proposals sound good to me including tort reform and nationwide purchasing of insurance.  What confuses me though is how they are a &#8220;couple minor adjustments&#8221;.  How are they any less simpler than just expanding Medicare for that paltry 10%?  How do your changes insure that taxpayers aren&#8217;t paying for the continuation of multi-million dollar pay packages for insurance company execs or insurance company bureuacrats deciding what care an individual should receive?</p>
<p>All that said, I&#8217;d take your changes over what we have currently.  That&#8217;s because I can afford insurance, I just can&#8217;t get it &#8211; pre-existing condition.  But I truly do not believe that they would magically be agreed to by the GOP.  This argument is like gun control, abortion, gay rights, etc. &#8211; don&#8217;t give an inch!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BG&#039;s point about Social Security is that it IS a tax, but it was sold to the public as a retirement plan. To prove to the American people that it was a retirement plan and not welfare for older workers EVERYONE qualifies at a certain age. Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, George Soros. These men and MILLIONS (I&#039;d even venture a guess - the MAJORITY) of Americans don&#039;t need SS to survive. And shouldn&#039;t collect a penny. SS should be means tested. SS taxes should not be capped. It is the most regressive tax we have. All that being said, can you imagine even the most liberal congress trying to pass those changes? I can&#039;t. They couldn&#039;t at the time. It took the LIE that it was a retirement fund for everyone to pass it. 

BG is correct that what is being shoved down our necks now is another LIE. We can cover the 10% of Americans (it&#039;s less than 10% if you require proof of citizenship) that currently don&#039;t have any insurance without messing with the current system. Expand Medicaid, add a percent or two to the FICA taxes that everyone pays. 

The Democrats are fixated on taking over the system. The system could be fixed easily with a couple minor adjustments, but the Democrats need to be honest and quit LYING about what they are doing.

1) Government sets a minimum standard for a &#039;basic&#039; policy. Insurance companies must offer this policy, but can offer additional policies that have additional coverage.

2) Insurance companies have to charge the same rate for everyone at every level of policy.

3) Insurance companies have to accept everyone to every policy with no &quot;pre-existing&quot; conditions.

4) Everyone has to purchase insurance.

5) Insurance provided by employers is taxed as income to the individual.

6) Tax credit for a certain amount each year.

7) Extra tax credit for low-income individuals (same as other welfare programs).

8) Tax penalty for not buying your own insurance (it will be bought for you as opposed to a criminal penalty.

9) Insurance can be bought from any company anywhere in the United States. It doesn&#039;t matter where you live. If you find a cheaper rate anywhere else, you can buy it.

10) Tort reform that ends the frivolous lawsuits that are treated as a lottery winning. Actual damages aren&#039;t capped, but punitive damages go to the government and not some trial attorney.

I believe 90% of Americans would be on-board with these changes - which would cover every American, reduce costs, provide better care through competition, and not have a &quot;public option (read government program)&quot;. It is the left-wing of the Democratic party that is stopping these changes. When the Republicans held power as the Democrats do now, every one of these was proposed and stopped in the Senate by the minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BG&#8217;s point about Social Security is that it IS a tax, but it was sold to the public as a retirement plan. To prove to the American people that it was a retirement plan and not welfare for older workers EVERYONE qualifies at a certain age. Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, George Soros. These men and MILLIONS (I&#8217;d even venture a guess &#8211; the MAJORITY) of Americans don&#8217;t need SS to survive. And shouldn&#8217;t collect a penny. SS should be means tested. SS taxes should not be capped. It is the most regressive tax we have. All that being said, can you imagine even the most liberal congress trying to pass those changes? I can&#8217;t. They couldn&#8217;t at the time. It took the LIE that it was a retirement fund for everyone to pass it. </p>
<p>BG is correct that what is being shoved down our necks now is another LIE. We can cover the 10% of Americans (it&#8217;s less than 10% if you require proof of citizenship) that currently don&#8217;t have any insurance without messing with the current system. Expand Medicaid, add a percent or two to the FICA taxes that everyone pays. </p>
<p>The Democrats are fixated on taking over the system. The system could be fixed easily with a couple minor adjustments, but the Democrats need to be honest and quit LYING about what they are doing.</p>
<p>1) Government sets a minimum standard for a &#8216;basic&#8217; policy. Insurance companies must offer this policy, but can offer additional policies that have additional coverage.</p>
<p>2) Insurance companies have to charge the same rate for everyone at every level of policy.</p>
<p>3) Insurance companies have to accept everyone to every policy with no &#8220;pre-existing&#8221; conditions.</p>
<p>4) Everyone has to purchase insurance.</p>
<p>5) Insurance provided by employers is taxed as income to the individual.</p>
<p>6) Tax credit for a certain amount each year.</p>
<p>7) Extra tax credit for low-income individuals (same as other welfare programs).</p>
<p> <img src='http://edsteinink.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Tax penalty for not buying your own insurance (it will be bought for you as opposed to a criminal penalty.</p>
<p>9) Insurance can be bought from any company anywhere in the United States. It doesn&#8217;t matter where you live. If you find a cheaper rate anywhere else, you can buy it.</p>
<p>10) Tort reform that ends the frivolous lawsuits that are treated as a lottery winning. Actual damages aren&#8217;t capped, but punitive damages go to the government and not some trial attorney.</p>
<p>I believe 90% of Americans would be on-board with these changes &#8211; which would cover every American, reduce costs, provide better care through competition, and not have a &#8220;public option (read government program)&#8221;. It is the left-wing of the Democratic party that is stopping these changes. When the Republicans held power as the Democrats do now, every one of these was proposed and stopped in the Senate by the minority.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Brammer</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Brammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that Foos can respond for himslef, however, I just can&#039;t let two items go by.

1. You imply that you shouldn&#039;t be any taxes at all since you sound like you shouldn&#039;t be paying Social Security.  I believe what Foos was saying earlier is that Social Security was not created as a forced retirement plan.  It is a tax.  It is a tax you pay now to proivde a basic level of income to the current elderly.  It was intended to be like insurance.   The not paying taxes reminds me of my farmer friends who don&#039;t feel they should pay taxes so that &quot;welfare moms&quot; get a basic level of support but when the conversation later gets around to commodity price supports, they are entitled to them.  You make a joke about food but we actually do that.   Your taxes go to pay for food stamps. 

2. &quot;We became the country we are by NOT relying on government programs&quot;.  Where did that come from?  In reality, we became the country we are BY relying on government programs.  Programs like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, FDIC Insurance, Unemployment Insurance, Commodity Price Supports, Corporate Subsidies, Food Stamps, SCHIP, TARP, just to name a few.  Like them or not, we are a country of government programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that Foos can respond for himslef, however, I just can&#8217;t let two items go by.</p>
<p>1. You imply that you shouldn&#8217;t be any taxes at all since you sound like you shouldn&#8217;t be paying Social Security.  I believe what Foos was saying earlier is that Social Security was not created as a forced retirement plan.  It is a tax.  It is a tax you pay now to proivde a basic level of income to the current elderly.  It was intended to be like insurance.   The not paying taxes reminds me of my farmer friends who don&#8217;t feel they should pay taxes so that &#8220;welfare moms&#8221; get a basic level of support but when the conversation later gets around to commodity price supports, they are entitled to them.  You make a joke about food but we actually do that.   Your taxes go to pay for food stamps. </p>
<p>2. &#8220;We became the country we are by NOT relying on government programs&#8221;.  Where did that come from?  In reality, we became the country we are BY relying on government programs.  Programs like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, FDIC Insurance, Unemployment Insurance, Commodity Price Supports, Corporate Subsidies, Food Stamps, SCHIP, TARP, just to name a few.  Like them or not, we are a country of government programs.</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foos, I don&#039;t understand why it is called &quot;entitlement&quot; when one wants control of the money that they have earned through their labors. When I see the amounts on my W2 that come out every year to social security, that could be money that I could invest or spend as I choose, money that I rightfully earned. Instead it goes away by default until I have reached retirement age, assuming I live that long. If we were to follow your string of logic, then we should take a portion of our paychecks, determined by the government, and put it in a fund that would pay for housing for all Americans. I&#039;m not talking about Division 8, but for all. How about food? That is a need primary to even health care. Since it is a social benefit to all to have food, let&#039;s all have money deducted for our paychecks and redistributed to everyone for their groceries. Hey, it&#039;s for the social good of the people, right? Especially those who are less fortunate. It will help to destroy the culture of corruption that permeates the society you perceive that we live in.

You want solutions, not platitudes? Fine, let&#039;s take a step back, and look at what is right in our system, our medical system. What works financially? What provides the best service? Medicare has largely provided good service, but is in dire straits financially. We became the country we are by NOT relying on government programs. Your hollering about our needing to join the rest of the civilized world is about as grounded in reality as those who believe in the death panels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foos, I don&#8217;t understand why it is called &#8220;entitlement&#8221; when one wants control of the money that they have earned through their labors. When I see the amounts on my W2 that come out every year to social security, that could be money that I could invest or spend as I choose, money that I rightfully earned. Instead it goes away by default until I have reached retirement age, assuming I live that long. If we were to follow your string of logic, then we should take a portion of our paychecks, determined by the government, and put it in a fund that would pay for housing for all Americans. I&#8217;m not talking about Division 8, but for all. How about food? That is a need primary to even health care. Since it is a social benefit to all to have food, let&#8217;s all have money deducted for our paychecks and redistributed to everyone for their groceries. Hey, it&#8217;s for the social good of the people, right? Especially those who are less fortunate. It will help to destroy the culture of corruption that permeates the society you perceive that we live in.</p>
<p>You want solutions, not platitudes? Fine, let&#8217;s take a step back, and look at what is right in our system, our medical system. What works financially? What provides the best service? Medicare has largely provided good service, but is in dire straits financially. We became the country we are by NOT relying on government programs. Your hollering about our needing to join the rest of the civilized world is about as grounded in reality as those who believe in the death panels.</p>
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		<title>By: FoosMaster</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>FoosMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ONLY solution is the government opton healthcare! Nothing short of that will work. Insurance companies will ALWAYS put profit before people! It&#039;s time to join the rest of the civilized world and take care of our sick citizens! The time of insurance companies deciding who lives and who dies based only on profits needs to come to an end!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ONLY solution is the government opton healthcare! Nothing short of that will work. Insurance companies will ALWAYS put profit before people! It&#8217;s time to join the rest of the civilized world and take care of our sick citizens! The time of insurance companies deciding who lives and who dies based only on profits needs to come to an end!</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Eliza</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put. Don&#039;t give me platitudes. Just give me solutions. What are you supposed to do? I can&#039;t believe that someone accused you of feeling entitled when all you asked for is a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put. Don&#8217;t give me platitudes. Just give me solutions. What are you supposed to do? I can&#8217;t believe that someone accused you of feeling entitled when all you asked for is a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: FoosMaster</title>
		<link>http://edsteinink.com/2009/10/05/the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>FoosMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Entitlement Statement: &quot;I would take it only in virtue of what I have already been forced to contribute.&quot; 
Social Security was not created as a Entitlement program. It was a program created for the “Social Good of the People” to help those that have had a hard life and can no longer take care of themselves, it was not created as a savings account for everyone! The access to Social Security by people that don’t need it (Wealthy) is what causes the problems in the system, people feel they are “Entitled” to get their tax money back. But Social Security is another issue.
Lastly, about healthcare, I truly am glad that everything has worked out for you. Too many Americans have had past healthcare issues or just can’t find a good enough job that gives healthcare insurance. They can’t get any medical help until it is so bad that they can get treatment at an Emergency Room, by then a disease is so far advanced that very little can be done. Once you have an illness it is either Way Too Expensive to get any healthcare insurance for that or is simply Not Available. The system runs on Profit and it will NEVER be “Profitable” to insure those types of people. Companies that offer health insurance will Fire you as soon as you get too sick to work and then you would not be able to get any healthcare coverage that is anywhere close to being affordable.  A government option is the Only way to give healthcare to ALL Americans. Insurance companies will Never insure a risky person at a reasonable rate, if at all. I truly hope that you never have to learn this first hand because of a healthcare issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Entitlement Statement: &#8220;I would take it only in virtue of what I have already been forced to contribute.&#8221;<br />
Social Security was not created as a Entitlement program. It was a program created for the “Social Good of the People” to help those that have had a hard life and can no longer take care of themselves, it was not created as a savings account for everyone! The access to Social Security by people that don’t need it (Wealthy) is what causes the problems in the system, people feel they are “Entitled” to get their tax money back. But Social Security is another issue.<br />
Lastly, about healthcare, I truly am glad that everything has worked out for you. Too many Americans have had past healthcare issues or just can’t find a good enough job that gives healthcare insurance. They can’t get any medical help until it is so bad that they can get treatment at an Emergency Room, by then a disease is so far advanced that very little can be done. Once you have an illness it is either Way Too Expensive to get any healthcare insurance for that or is simply Not Available. The system runs on Profit and it will NEVER be “Profitable” to insure those types of people. Companies that offer health insurance will Fire you as soon as you get too sick to work and then you would not be able to get any healthcare coverage that is anywhere close to being affordable.  A government option is the Only way to give healthcare to ALL Americans. Insurance companies will Never insure a risky person at a reasonable rate, if at all. I truly hope that you never have to learn this first hand because of a healthcare issue.</p>
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